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RLHF vs RLVR and the poisoning challenge: how safety debates shape trust in LLMs

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Safety debates around LLMs are shaping trust as new research reveals backdoor poisoning risks and 'paranoid sanity checks' that feel more like security theater.

Edge-case safety theater — The discussion around how safeguards show up in practice highlights that formal checks can become security theater rather than user-first protection, a point raised in a hot thread about Claude vs GPT UI and the risks of over-engineering checks [1].

Poisoning risk and triggers — A deep-dive from Anthropic shows that a small number of samples can poison LLMs of any size; poisoning can rely on rare trigger phrases that slip into production data, with a near-constant document requirement regardless of model size [2].

Trust, deployment, and policy — These threads underscore that governance, fail-safes, and domain-aware safeguards are central to whether organizations will deploy LLMs like Claude or other systems, and how they rate risk in real-world use cases [1][2].

Closing thought: Safety work isn’t just tech; it’s policy, process, and trust in hands-off, real-world deployments.

References

[1]
HackerNews

LLMs are mortally terrified of exceptions

Long thread on LLM safety, defense coding, RLHF vs RLVR, comparing Claude with GPT and Gemini, plus edge-case arguments here.

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[2]
HackerNews

A small number of samples can poison LLMs of any size

Post discusses Anthropic backdoor poisoning study; argues trigger phrases; explores model size implications; debates ethics, trust, and governance security risks.

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