Open-source Chinese coding AIs are pushing to challenge giants like OpenAI and Anthropic. A standout claim: Tongyi DeepResearch released an open-source 30B MoE model described as rival to OpenAI's DeepResearch [1]. Fans point to GLM and Qwen as progress toward beating Claude from Anthropic, but the short-term gap remains wide [2].
- GLM and Qwen progress is real, yet the gap to OpenAI and Claude stays sizable in the near term [2].
- Chinese labs press the three levers: mixture of experts (MoE), synthetic data generation, and hefty government funding [2].
- Some observers say synthetic data often comes from western models via the Gemini API, which muddies openness but speeds iteration [2].
- Deepseek is highlighted for digging into fundamentals and publishing papers, signaling a different open-weight approach [2].
On safety and openness, the debate around open weights surfaces questions about vulnerabilities in frontier models. While some worry about backdoors, others argue that resilient parsing and library hardening reduce practical risk; the broader point is that zero-day exploits aren’t trivial to weaponize [3].
The thread isn’t just about benchmarks. It’s geopolitics, funding, and who controls data—an evolving tug between open experimentation and closed systems as Tongyi DeepResearch and peers push toward parity with the giants [2][3].
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Tongyi DeepResearch – open-source 30B MoE Model that rivals OpenAI DeepResearch
Open-source Tongyi DeepResearch 30B MoE model touted as a rival to OpenAI DeepResearch, claiming competitive performance.
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